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Does God Change His Mind? Malachi 3:6 "For I am the Lord; I change not." Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent." Ezekiel 24:14 "I the Lord have spoken it: it shall come to pass, and I will do it; I will not go back, neither will I spare, neither will I repent." James 1:17 " . . . the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning." These verses indicate that God isn't the sort to flip sides. But what, it is asked, of these verses? Exodus 32:14 "And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people." Genesis 6:6,7 "And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth . . . And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth . . . for it repenteth me that I have made him." Jonah 3:10 ". . . and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not." 2 Kings 20:1-7, Numbers 16:20-35, Numbers 16:44-50, Genesis 18:23-33. So what is the answer? It comes by stages:
Let's go now to an examination of verses that have been used in this argument.
And now a response in reply to a criticism from the "Ebon Musings" site. Ebon burbles forth: God specifically states that he spared Nineveh because of their repentance (Jonah 3:10). So what about 4:11? What about it? Jonah 4:11 simply reflects an expression of concern for the people and animals of Nineveh. It has virtually nothing to do with God's ultimate reason for withholding destruction as related in 3:10. If God had no concern for them, then presumably he wouldn't have given two flips whether or not they repented and Jonah would not have even been sent in the first place. It gives the reason why God warned the Ninevites in the first place, not why they were spared. There are occasions in which God withholds a promised judgment even when those he had threatened did not change their ways at all. The "Ebon"ic example given is Exodus 32:9-14. So, is this a "promised judgment" as Ebon claims? "Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them." The judgment here is conditional, and not conditional on the Israelites as a whole, but on their human representative Moses. If Moses leaves God alone, then the Israelites will taste judgment. Moses intercedes, as God (no doubt) expected him to. Adding a minor point, Ebon suggests that God plans to destroy the Israelites "for being" stiff-necked. That claim sweeps quite a bit of dust under the rug. Contextually (beyond the reference offered by Ebon), we find that the reason is given in Exodus 32:7,8 where the Israelites not only worship an idol in the shape of a calf, but misplace credit for their deliverance from Egypt. Yes, this is stiff-necked behavior, but it is a particular variety of stiff-necked behavior. They could have been stiff-necked in their adoration of Yahweh with no problem. Ebon tacks on the following summary of his complaint against Christian apologists: "Apologists such as Mr. Holding wish to conclude that the Bible is consistent based only on their assumption that it is consistent, and this is a severe logical fallacy." Well, a fallacy is a fallacy, severe or not; they all have the same effect - but are we really guilty of a fallacy? If we are, so are professional historians who give texts the benefit of the doubt. Granting the presumption of accuracy to a text is simply the pragmatic way to evaluate the text objectively. This approach permits such probing questions as "If the text were true, shouldn't we expect X"? It also serves as the foundation for the normal practice of harmonization, even in secular texts. In effect, the presumption that the text is true is granted for the sake of argument. Coincidentally, it is also a doctrine held by Christians. Thus the argument is not the fallacious construction suggested by Ebon (the Bible is true because it is true), but "The Bible is true for the sake of argument" followed (doctrinally) by "The Bible is true because it passes the tests of authenticity." There will always be a new test, of course. The doctrine guides the approach to the latest test; it need not dictate the response to the test regardless of the particulars of the case. Next, utterly ignoring my points from i.e., Caird about Semitic style (other than simply mentioning them) Ebon claims that the text contradicts this because: Jonah himself apparently understood his warnings as absolute statements, because when God fails to destroy the city as promised, he becomes very angry and frustrated (4:1,4) and asks God to take his life (4:3,8). Why would he have done this if he meant his warnings to be conditional statements as Mr. Holding suggests? Why would he not have been overjoyed about his success? The only reasonable conclusion is that Jonah became angry because he understood God as having gone back on his word, after all the suffering God put him through to make him a prophet. Simply put, even without the Semitic context, the conclusion reached does not follow from the evidence. Jonah from the first had a bad attitude about his role in preaching to the Ninevites. As Jonah himself says (Jonah 4:2,3): "That is why I was so quick to flee to Tarshish. I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity." Curiously, the portion that Ebon wants us to read picks up directly after the portion just quoted. Ebon trims the context of the text which allegedly supports his view. It is clear from Jonah's "attitude" that his bitterness was the result of God sparing the city even though the Ninevites had repented. In other words his response (as exemplified by 4:2-3) is, "This has been a big waste of time, and I resent it." He didn't care for the Ninevites as persons (a human reaction most likely induced by the Assyrians being the Jews' political enemies). We also have a pretty clear contextual clue that the Ninevites took the prophecy of doom as conditional. The text affirms that they believed Jonah. So why not move away or get out of town? They don't move away, however; they fast, don sackcloth, repent, and then they wait. Resigned to their fate, or hoping for mercy? As far as grieving being possible even if we know something will happen, Ebon plays a childish card of expecting God to change things -- against human free will -- to make Himself happy and not have to grieve! None of this answers the primary point, which is that the word does not indicate that God repents (as we understand the word) or changes His mind. Nor does it do to posit in reply, "Well, God could have been more imaginative and done X or Y." This merely begs the same question, that one has the omniscience to know that any other course of action would have been better beyond the myopically-glimpsed presumptive short-term. Ebon finds it unbelievable that such could be the case with respect to an omnipotent deity: "[God] can, by definition, cause things to turn out any way he wishes; again by definition, he can never be forced to choose a course of action with substandard results." Can an omnipotent being, by definition, cause things to turn out any way it wishes? Actually, no. An omnipotent being cannot alter a free will choice to obtain a desired result (this results in both A and not-A being true at the same time and in the same sense, which is a contradiction). Can an omnipotent being be forced to choose a course of action with substandard results? No, and what of it? It is incumbent on Ebon to establish that our omnipotent being (God) chose a course of action which obtained comparatively substandard results. Ebon has attempted to circle the enemy's defenses, and finding no actual gap in the defense, ends up where he started. Seemingly oblivious to this, Ebon continues for some lines with a roundabout argument from incredulity. He does not edge anywhere near the task of actually demonstrating an improvement on a particular decision that God made. And until he gets the wiles of a Harry Turtledove, he won't even begin to come close. Go Home! |
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