This may be your first time reading something on this page...if it is, welcome.

If you're fightin' mad about something on this page...this is the place that tells you what to do about it.

(Yes, veteran readers: After 8 years of having this challenge posted, I've made some changes. Mainly because no one seems to have heard from the original character ["Huey"] I priorly referenced. But also because a lot has changed in the past 8 years. Read on.)

It's a fact that with some people, there is no way to withdraw gracefully from any conversation with them, without it being assumed that your withdrawal means victory for their side. You have given up because you have lost - not because you have realized that you are beating a dead horse. The situation is rather analogous to the armored knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail who, having had his limbs shorn off, avers, "Tis' only a flesh wound!" Well, we can't say they don't have a positive attitude. Robert Schuller is a dilettante compared to this breed with their rose-colored glasses. As one of our readers has said, in their world, if you stop beating a dead horse and walk away, it will eventually get up and tell everyone it crossed the finish line ahead of you.

Here at Tekton, we've been kind of masochistic over the years. We've taken on Christ-mythers who think that Jesus was a revised version of Julius Caesar; we've tackled those who think that Tacitus' Annals were forged in the 14th century; we've done the dance with every brand of Planters on the market. We've also dealt with far more reasonable people. Well, if you're anywhere on that spectrum, and don't agree with something written on this site, here's some things you can do if you're in the mood.

1. Write a rebuttal to one of our essays. Not many have tried this over the years. Maybe a dozen in the past eight years. It's certainly not worn out both of my hands counting them. But essentially, you can write a rebuttal to any essay here by me (JP Holding) and we'll discuss things like hosting it (if you don't have your own page to put it on) and my response.

   Some caveats here. There are many essays here by guest writers. If you want to tackle one of those, that's fine, as long as I am still in touch with the writer (which I am not always). Also, I am not going to accept any "refutations" which don't make use of credentialed, scholarly sources. By this I mean, people with doctorates in a relevant field like Biblical studies. That's what I use, and that's what I expect you to use. Under our No More Stupid People(TM) policy, refutations that use sources like John Remsberg or Acharya S will be summarily ignored. Such responses are a waste of my time and that of readers who deserve better.

   Oh, and one more thing -- make sure the essay you're after is ON THIS SITE. Check the URL. More than once I've had people say they're ready to refute something I link to. But if it doesn't say "tektonics.org" in the address, it's not going to be mine and I'm not going to presume myself to take the reins of someone else's work; that's plain rude. Please pay attention if you will.

2. Meet me on TheologyWeb. This is a forum run by people that includes readers of this site. Many readers of this site are participants. Look for me under the username jpholding (all lower case). There is a section of TWeb set aside for this ministry where you can introduce yourself (you have my permission) or you can go to a section called the Coach's Quarters and immediately offer a challenge (just make sure you let me know that you have somehow; use email or use the private message system there).

   The same caveats apply, though the second one differently. I can't stop you from posting source material better used for paper towels, but as I said, there are readers of this site there, and they are very educated. If you come posting junk, you'll be laughed and scolded all the way to the dark side of the moon. If public humiliation is your favorite thing to enjoy, by all means, pop on board and tell us all about how "C. Dennis McKinsey" or "Farrell Till" or "Joseph Atwill" refute this or that on this site. We'll add the laugh track and have a real good time.

   On the other hand, if you DO use serious sourcework, you won't be able to run fast enough to escape the red carpet treatment. Our people WANT some serious interactions and challenges. They're not afraid of it.

That's all. And yes...the clock is still ticking.