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The New Testament
Querying the QM Thesis
Matthew 17:1-23/Mark 9:2-32/Luke 9:28-45
J. P. Holding
Sectional Analysis
| Matthew |
And after days six takes-alongside (the) Jesus (the) Peter and James and John the brother of-him and leads them into mountain high (in a way) private. And He-was-transfigured before them and shone the face of-Him as the sun the and garments of-him became white as the light. |
| Mark |
And after days six takes-along (the) Jesus (the) Peter and (the) James and (the) John and brings-up them into mount high privately alone themselves. And he-was-transfigured before them. And the garments of-him became shining white very as snow such-as a-fuller on the earth not is-able to-whiten. |
| Luke
| it-was And after (the) sayings these about days eight also taking (the) Peter and John and James He-went into the mountain to-pray. And it-came-to-be in the praying of-Him the appearance the face of-him different and the clothing of-him white dazzling. |
On the difference in numbers of days see here. One again Mark bears the sign of Peter's elaborated personal witness (the added description of the clothes) and the signs of an oral performance (added emphasis on their being alone). Meanwhile if Luke is using Mark alone it is odd that he knows of Jesus' face being transformed, and also makes the switch from six to eight. It is probable that Luke has interviewed Peter or John (James would be deceased by this time) for the more precise timing, and we will see more signs of this -- it is an event like the transfiguration that a sober historian like Luke would be inclined to check into with eyewitnesses.
| Matthew |
And behold! Appeared to-them Moses and Elijah with him talking-together. answering And Peter said to Jesus Lord good it-is us here to-be. If you-desire let-us-make here three tents for you-one and Moses one and one Elijah. While he was speaking Behold cloud radiant overshadowed them And behold voice out the cloud saying This is the Son of-Me the Beloved in whom I-have-delighted Him hear. And hearing the disciples fell on face of-them and were-terrified greatly. |
| Mark |
And was-seen by-them Elijah and Moses and were-they speaking-with (the) Jesus. And answering (the) Peter says to-Jesus Rabbi good it-is us here to-be; and, Let us-make tents three You one and Moses one and Elijah one. not For he knew what to-say they-were for very-fearful. And came-to-be cloud overshadowing them and came a voice out the cloud saying This is the Son of-Me the Beloved. Him hear! |
| Luke
| And behold! men Two talked-with him who were Moses and Elijah who appearing in glory spoke of-the exodus of-him which he-was-about to-fulfill in Jerusalem. (the) And Peter and those with him were being-pressed-down with-sleep awakening-fully. But they-saw the glory of-him and the two men (the) standing with him. And it-happened in the departing of-them from him said (the) Peter to (the) Jesus Master good it-is us here to-be; and let-us-make tents three, one you and Moses one and one Elijah not knowing he says. these things And him saying came cloud and overshadowed them, they-feared and in the of-those entering into the cloud. And voice came out the cloud saying This is the Son of-Me the beloved Him hear. |
Matthew does his usual redactive use of kurios (sir) as an address for Jesus. Note how between Matt and Mark, there is a shift in order not only of reporting (Matt: M-E appeared; Peter speaks; the cloud, and God speaks; the disciples fear -- Mark: M-E appeared; Peter speaks; the disciples fear; the cloud, and God speaks) but in the order that the names of Moses and Elijah are reported. Yet the speech of God is reported almost exactly, with Matthew only adding a clear echo (delighted) from the baptism. What we are seeing here is oral tradition, not literary copying. The extra details from Luke bear the marks of details obtained via interview and questioning.
| Matthew |
And having-come-near (the) Jesus touched them and said Rise-up no-one they-saw but/except (the) Jesus alone. And coming-down they from the mountain enjoined them (the) Jesus saying To-no-one tell the vision until whom the Son (the) of-Man from the-dead is-raised. |
| Mark |
And suddenly having-looked-around no-longer no-one they-saw but (the) Jesus alone with themselves. (as)-were-descending And they from the mountain He-commanded them that to-no-one they-should-tell what saw they except when the Son (the) of-man from dead may-rise. |
| Luke
| And in the occurring the voice was-found (the) Jesus alone. And they were-quiet and to-no-one reported in those (the) days nothing which they-had-seen. |
As they pericopes now diverge considerably, the pericope in oral form likely ended in the prior section. All three reports their silence in quite different words.
| Matthew |
And questioned him the disciples of-him saying, Why then the scribes say that Elijah must come first? (the) and Jesus answering said to-them Elijah indeed comes first and shall-restore all-things I-say but to-you that Elijah already came and not they-recognized him but did by him whatever they-desired; so also the Son (the) of-man is-about to-suffer by them. Then understood the disciples that about John the Baptist He spoke to them. |
| Mark |
And the word they-held to themselves debating what is (the) from dead to-rise. And they-asked Him saying why say the scribes that Elijah must come first? he And answering said to-them Elijah indeed coming first restores all-things. And how has-it-been-written on the Son (the) of-Man that things He-may-suffer and be-despised? But I-say to-you that also Elijah has-come and they-did to-him whatever they-desired even-as it-has-been-written on-him. |
| Luke
| (no parallel) |
This teaching was likely attached to the one about the transfiguration. Peter has added another eyewitness touch (what else they discussed) which not incidentally confirms Luke's account previously that they were discussing what Jesus was soon to do at Jerusalem. Luke omits this portion perhaps because his readership would not have the knowledge to grasp the typological John-Elijah connection. Hawkins [124] thinks Matthew deleted the "written of him" about John, because it "is by no means clear how the ill-treatment of the Baptist had been 'written of'." Hawkins is a low-context modern having problems with a high-context text. This is an allusion to 1 Kings 19:1-3 and the death threat against the "original" Elijah, now accomplished against the "new" Elijah by Herodias. It may not occur to Hawkins that if this is a problem, Mark certainly did not see it as one when he wrote it.
| Matthew |
And having-come they toward the crowd came-near him man kneeling-down to-him and saying Lord pity me the son because he-is-moonstruck and miserably suffers often for falls into the fire and often into the water. And I-brought him to disciples of-you and not they-were-able (1410) him to-heal. answering And the Jesus said O generation faithless and perverted until when shall-I-be with you? Until when shall-I-endure you? Bring to-me him here. And rebuked it the Jesus and came-out from him the demon and was-healed the boy from the hour that. |
| Mark |
And coming to the disciples he-saw crowd great around them and scribes arguing with-them. And at-once all the crowd seeing him were-greatly-amazed And running-up greeted him. And he-questioned the scribes, What are-you-arguing with them? And answered one out of the crowd saying Teacher I-brought the son of-me to you having a spirit dumb and where ever him it-seizes it-dashes him and he-foams and gnashes the teeth of-him and he-wastes-away. And I-told the disciples of-you that if they might-expel and not they-were-able (2480). he And answering them says O generation faithless until when with you shall-I-be? Until when shall-I-endure you? Bring him to-me. And they-brought him to him And seeing him immediately the spirit convulsed him and falling on the ground he-wallowed foaming. And he-questioned the father of-him How-long time is-it while this has-happened to-him? he And said From-childhood. And often him both into fire it threw and into water that it-might-destroy him. But if any you-can-do help us having-pity on us. the And Jesus said to-him If you-are-able to-believe all-things possible to believing. And at-once crying-out the father of child with tears said I-believe Lord help of-me the unbelief! seeing And the Jesus that is-running-together crowd rebuked the spirit of unclean saying to it the spirit of dumb and deaf I you command Come-out from him and no-more may you go into him. And crying out and much convulsing him it-came-out. And he-became as dead so-as many to-say that he-died. the But Jesus taking-hold of-him the hand raised-up him and he-stood-up. |
| Luke |
it-was And in the next day coming-down them from the mountain met him crowd large. And behold man from the crowd cried-out saying Teacher I-beg you to-look upon the son of-me because only-born he is-of-me. And behold! a spirit takes-hold of-him and suddenly he-cries-out and convulses him with foam and with-difficulty departs from him bruising him. And I-begged the disciples of-you that they-cast-out it and not they-were-able (1410). answering And Jesus said O generation faithless and having-been-perverted, until when shall-I-be with and endure you? Bring here the son of-you. yet But coming-near him tore him the demon and violently-convulsed. rebuked But the Jesus the spirit of unclean and healed the child and gave-back him to father of-him. were-astounded And all at the majesty of God. |
Those who say that Matt and Luke might be embarrassed to show Jesus angry need to consider this passage carefully. This is a false ground in the Marcan priority hypothesis. However, this does show extensive eyewitness additions by Peter, and a common source in that Matt and Luke come up with the same Greek word for "they-were-able" while Mark differs, and that Luke shows signs of note-taking from both Mark and a Matthean version (for example, the "perverted" comment). Hawkins [124] idiotically thinks that Matt eliminated Mark's amazement of the crowd because there was nothing to be "amazed" about; he says that the radiance of the Transfiguration was gone by then. He apparently has no idea that the crowds were "amazed" (the word also means "frightened") because of a premonition of what would happen when Jesus would a) confront the deaf and dumb spirit; b) see that his disciples had failed in their own efforts. However, Witherington [266] disagrees that the radiance would of necessity been lost by this time. This is just as well seen as a Petrine eyewitness addition. He also supposes that the father's reaction implies "acceptance of a lower standard of faith" which would be found disagreeable, but this hardly makes sense given that Matt says even faith as minute as a mustard seed can move mountains (17:20).
| Matthew |
Then having-come-up the disciples of Jesus in-way privately said Why us not were able to-cast-out him the And Jesus said to-them Because of unbelief of-you truly For I-say to-you If you-have faith as grain mustard you-will-say to mountain this Move from-here to-there and it-will-move and nothing shall-be-impossible to-you this But kind does-go-out (1607) except for in prayer and fasting. |
| Mark |
And entering he into house the disciples of him questioned him privately Why we not were-able to-cast-out it And he-said to-them This the by nothing can go-out (1831) except by prayer and fasting. |
| Luke |
(no parallel) |
Matt again displaces a teaching topically. The different word for "going out" points to a common Aramaic source and not copying. There is also a lapse here in the Marcan priority theorem, for it is claimed that Matthew deleted Jesus weakness due to lack of faith in Mark 6:5, yet Matt gives here the same lesson Mark teaches in 6:5!
| Matthew |
were-living And they in Galilee said to-them the Jesus is-about the Son of Man to-be-delivered-up into hands men and they-will-kill him and on third day he-will-be-raised (1453) And they-grieved exceedingly. |
| Mark |
And from-there going-forth they-passed-by through the Galilee And not he-desired that anyone know. He-taught For the disciples of-him and said to-them for the Son of Man is-delivered-up into hands of-men and they-will-kill him and having-been-slain the third day he-will-rise-up (450), they But knew-not the word and feared him to-question. |
| Luke |
all And marveling at all which he-did the Jesus said to the disciples of him Lay you into the ears of-you the sayings these. the For Son of Man is-about to-be-betrayed into hands men. they But knew-not the word this and it-was being-veiled from them so not they-perceive it. And they-feared to-ask him about the word this. |
Great variation here points to a much simpler core tradition and the different word for "raised" points to it coming from a different language.
Ur-Matthew Reconstruction
Since it is likely Luke conducted further interviews on this matter, he would not have used Ur-Matthew (and Mark) alone, but:
And after days six takes-alongside (the) Jesus (the) Peter and James and John the brother of-him and leads them into mountain high (in a way) private. And He-was-transfigured before them and shone the face of-Him as the sun the and garments of-him became white as the light. And behold! Appeared to-them Moses and Elijah with him talking-together. answering And Peter said to Jesus Lord good it-is us here to-be. If you-desire let-us-make here three tents for you-one and Moses one and one Elijah. While he was speaking Behold cloud radiant overshadowed them And behold voice out the cloud saying This is the Son of-Me the Beloved Him hear.
And questioned him the disciples of-him saying, Why then the scribes say that Elijah must come first? (the) and Jesus answering said to-them Elijah indeed comes first and shall-restore all-things I-say but to-you that Elijah already came and not they-recognized him but did by him whatever they-desired; so also the Son (the) of-man is-about to-suffer by them.
And behold man from the crowd cried-out saying Teacher I-beg you to-look upon the son of-me . And behold! a spirit takes-hold of-him and suddenly he-cries-out and convulses him with foam and with-difficulty departs from him bruising him. And I-begged the disciples of-you that they-cast-out it and not they-were-able. answering And Jesus said O generation faithless and perverted, until when shall-I-be with you? until when shall-I-endure you? Bring to-me him here. yet But coming-near him tore him the demon and violently-convulsed. And rebuked it the Jesus and came-out from him the demon and was-healed the boy from the hour that. Then having-come-up the disciples of Jesus in-way privately said Why us not were able to-cast-out him the And Jesus said this kind does-go-out except for in prayer.
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